A: A lot of the things you’re doing are connected through a common theme, how did Volleyball come about?

D: To us, Volleyball just represents the combination of what both of us are interested in creatively. And once we had a kind of an ecosystem around what we wanted volleyball to be, all of those things like jewelry and music and video and everything kind of just are different ways to serve that middle thing, you know what I mean? And that kind of made it less overwhelming. Does that make sense?

A: You know how to work a lot of mediums, are there projects where you’d be happy for someone else to take over one of these roles?

D: I think the video we did with 46A Productions is a great example of that. It took both of us a second to get used to the idea that we weren’t doing or documenting everything ourselves. We kind of stood back as producers on the video, so I think that was kind of the first time it was like, Oh, this is something we are building for us that is not as hands-on as we are used to, which I think is definitely liberating in a way because it’s great to have other people’s visions.

A: Why Volleyball and how did the idea come about?

C: We both were kind of fed up with people not taking it seriously when we told them about ideas and things we wanted to realize, especially because of the fact that we were doing so much already. We’re very inspired by people who do several different things or have paved their way in one lane and then switched. People like Rihanna or Kanye and even sports people; like the fact that Michael Jordan quit the NBA at the height of his career to play baseball, we were, like, saying jokingly, oh, if he wanted to play volleyball, he could have.